Changing Jasper’s Direction

I usually won’t publish blog posts on weekends because nobody reads them, but in this case I’m just jotting down my own thoughts.

I’ve been working off and on for about 4-5 years on a new .Net framework called Jasper (see the “Jasper” tag for my previous posts). Jasper was originally envisioned as a better version of FubuMVC, including both its web framework side and its later functionality as a pretty full fledged service bus that could do publish/subscribe messaging through its own lightweight in process queue (LightningQueues) without any other additional infrastructure.

For the last half of 2017 and the early part of 2018 some of my colleagues and I worked a lot on Jasper specifically as a service bus that could be backwards compatible with older FubuMVC applications and be usable in a large, on premise deployed ecosystem. To that end, most of Jasper’s code deals with messaging concerns, including quite a bit of functionality that overlaps with big, grown up messaging tools like RabbitMQ or Azure Service Bus.

After getting back into Jasper again the past couple weeks I think these things:

  • The backwards compatibility with FubuMVC doesn’t matter anymore and could be eliminated
  • If I were using Jasper for messaging at any kind of scope, I’d want to be using Rabbit MQ or Azure Service Bus anyway
  • I’m personally way more interested myself in getting back to the HTTP side of things or learning Azure technologies through integration with Jasper
  • The codebase is big and probably a little daunting
  • In my opinion, the special thing about Jasper is its particular flavor of the Russian Doll runtime pipeline, extensibility, and the way it allows you to write very simple code in your application.
  • It’s extremely hard to get developers to use any kind of alternative framework, but it’s far less difficult to get developers to try out OSS libraries that complement, extend, or improve the mainstream framework they’re already working with.

I’m still mulling things over, but at this point I wanna switch directions so that Jasper is mostly about its runtime pipeline as a “command processor” that can be used 3 (maybe 4) ways:

  1. As a standalone, in memory service bus and command dispatcher (which it already does today, as is, and quite robustly, thank you) that you could embed in any kind of .Net Core application. For example, Jasper could be used in combination with ASP.Net Core the same way that folks use MediatR today.
  2. As an alternative way to write HTTP services in ASP.Net Core that’s effectively Jasper’s own lightweight HTTP router connected to Jasper’s runtime pipeline for command execution (it’s not documented at all other than a single blog post, but much of the basics are already in place). This could be used in place of or side by side with MVC Core or any other kind of ASP.Net Core middleware.
  3. As a connector between publish/subscribe queues like RabbitMQ or Azure Service Bus and Jasper’s command execution. Basically, Jasper handles all the things like serialization and messaging workflow described in Sure, You Can Just Use RabbitMQ — which Jasper’s existing messaging support generally does right now as is. What would change here is mostly subtraction as Jasper would rely much more on RabbitMQ/Azure Service Bus/etc. for message routing instead of the custom code that exists in Jasper’s codebase today.

That still sounds like a potentially huge tool, but there’s maybe a lot more in common between those 3 things than it appears. Jasper’s sharing all the command execution mechanics, the IoC integration, logging set up, and even sharing content negotiation (serialization) between items 1, 2, & 3 above.

Nuget wise, after whacking some code listed later in this post and the recent reorganization of the codebase anyway, I think Jasper is divided into these Nugets:

  • Jasper — The core library. Has the TCP transport (its tiny), the core runtime pipeline, the in memory bus and command execution functionality, the HTTP handler support, anything to do with extension discovery, and the integration into ASP.Net Core hosting. As much as possible, Jasper tries to rely on common pieces like the basic logging, hosting, and configuration elements of ASP.Net Core, so there’s no good reason in my mind to separate out the HTTP support from the core
  • Jasper.Persistence.Marten — integrates Marten/Postgresql into a Jasper application. Marten-backed saga persistence, durable messaging, and the outbox support
  • Jasper.Persistence.SqlServer — Sql Server backed message and saga persistence, including the outbox support. I’m not sure what to do with saga persistence here yet
  • Jasper.RabbitMQ — the RabbitMQ transport for Jasper
  • Jasper.AzureServiceBus — future
  • Jasper.TestSupport.Storyteller — tooling to host and monitor Jasper applications in Storytellerspecifications
  • Jasper.TestSupport.Alba — tooling to run Alba specifications directly against a Jasper runtime
  • Jasper.MvcCoreExtender — future, use MVC Core constructs in Jasper HTTP services and possibly act as a performance accelerator to existing MVC Core applications

So here’s my current thinking on what does or does not change:


  • The HTTP transport that uses Kestrel as another bus transport alternative. It needs a little more work anyway and I don’t see anyone using it
  • Anything to do with the dynamic subscription model, and that’s quite a bit
  • The Consul extension. Most of it is for the subscriptions that goes away, and the rest of it could be done by just piping Consul through ASP.Net Configuration
  • Request/Reply or Send/Await mechanics in the service bus. Only there for fubu compatibility we no longer care about. It’d be long gone as is but too many tests depend on it. Ugh.
  • The model binding support. I don’t think it’d be commonly used and I’d rather cede that to MVC Core
  • Node registration and discovery. Use what’s already in Azure or AWS for this kind of thing and let’s thin down Jasper


  • The lightweight TCP protocol stays, but it’s documented clearly as most appropriate for small to medium workloads or for local testing or for just a simple getting started story
  • The outbox mechanics w/ either Marten or Sql Server
  • The current in memory worker queues, with possible thought toward making them extensible for concerns like throttling in the future
  • The serialization and content negotiation
  • Jasper’s command line integration via Oakton. I think it’s turning out to be a cheap way to build in diagnostics and maintenance tasks right into your app.
  • The environment check support. I’m not aware of any equivalent in ASP.Net Core yet
  • Jasper’s internal HTTP router. I think it’s going to end up being much faster than the one built into Core

Enhance or Add


  • The built in error handling/retry/circuit breaker stuff in Jasper is battle tested through years of usage in production as part of FubuMVC, but I want to see if there’s a way to replace it with Polly to shrink the codebase and add a lot more capabilities. It’s not a slam dunk though

One thought on “Changing Jasper’s Direction

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s